A Treatise on the Civil Service Appraisal System
By The Kway Teow Man on 17 Apr 2007 2:53 PM
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It turns out that the KTM is big kay poh and he is interested in all kinds of random things, so he goes and finds out about them and ponders about them. One of the most fascinating systems that the KTM has ever come across is the appraisal system for the Singapore Civil Service.

It seems that there is a great deal of interest in how this mysterious thing known as CEP and ranking works in the Civil Service and hence the KTM thought that it might be useful to share the results of his research with the general public. Of course, none of what is written is classified (or the KTM will be charged under the OSA), and even if the KTM wants to reveal, it's not like he actually knows also.

The source of the KTM's knowledge comes from civil servants who (of course!) cannot be named. It turns out that the KTM also met a HR person from Shell (where the CEP system was supposedly invented) about a year ago and got to hear a little more about how Shell used to do their thing (but not in detail also).

At the end of this article, the KTM will also propose a new salary framework which he believes can address some of the shortfalls of the present system.

[Health warning: This article is extremely long. It's called a treatise for a reason.]

Instead of simply discribing the system, this article will attempt to explore the problem of appraisal and rewarding 70,000 people (a la Civil Service) in monolithic system from the perspective of HR management and engineering(!). The question is: how does one even begin to architecture and operate such a massive system in way that makes sense and will be perceived by the people being managed as "fair and transparent"?

The KTM makes no claims to know of the exact details, but the general principles described in this article should be accurate to the best of the KTM's knowledge. While the general principles should be broadly applicable, there are likely to be some details that are specific to service. The Admin Service, the Legal Service and the Education Service supposedly have slightly different systems because ... actually, dunno because what also. :-) They are just different loh. If people find out, perhaps explain to the KTM. :-P

The Peter Principle

To begin, people must understand the Peter Principle. What the Peter Principle essentially says is that in large organizations, there is a tendency for people to be "promoted to incompetence". Interesting notion isn't it? What does it mean?

For those who are already working, hands up those who have bosses who are completely inept and incompetent (and who DO NOT own the company, i.e. are employees). Isn't it quite baffling how such people could have risen to their present positions to begin with? Alright, some are natural bootlickers. Suppose we factor them out, do we have any left over? Yes, and a significant number. :-) Why?

It turns out that many of these so-called incompetent fellows really weren't all that incompetent before they get promoted to their present jobs. Let's get it straight: who in his right mind will go and promote an incompetent chap? Makes no sense right? Of course and this is true for both the private sector and the public service.

The fact however is that not all people are suitable for all jobs and there is a limit to what people can do. Some people can do bigger jobs. Some people can't cope. That's just life. Those with humongous egos will think that they can do anything, but will find out for themselves soon enough. :-P

There is actually an interesting corollary to the Peter Principle, and that is: the fault doesn't lie with the employee. It lies with the employer who promoted that fella to incompetence (!). Shocking hor, but it's true. :-)

Suppose that we all agree that the Peter Principle is a real phenomenon, it therefore follows that what organizations should seek to do is to ensure that nobody gets promoted to incompetence and we're all set! :-P

Jobs and Job Grades

As a quick digression, the Civil Service is organized as this ginormous hierarchy with many layers and levels (people should not be surprised right?). The idea in this hierarchy is that the higher one is up in the pyramid, the more important the job and hence the more one is paid.

The levels of this pyramid gives rise to the concept of job grades and the idea is that that one's potential can be measured by how far up one can operate in this pyramid and still be competent and effective at one's job.

Principles of Reward and Promotion

There is apparently the following principle of reward and promotion in the Civil Service: the reward for good work is given in cash, i.e. more performance bonus. Promotions are only given for people who demonstrate the aptitude and potential to do higher level jobs.

Some people of course don't buy this and think they deserve to be promoted if they do a good job. The KTM however buys this because he actually feels sorry for the people who are over-promoted and thereby become incompetent at their jobs. Perhaps some people may not think so, but it's really quite sad to be incompetent at one's job. Some people have big egos and never ever realise that they are incompetent. Perhaps it's good for them. For those who are somewhat more circumspect and actually realise they are in a job they cannot handle, it's kinda rough, especially in the context of the Civil Service. The fella will be pretty powerless to do anything and yet will have everyone talking behind his back. It's quite a sad state of affairs. :-(

Avoid Promoting People to Incompetence Lah

How does one cope with the Peter Principle? Idea is very simple. Suppose we know for a fact what is the limit to an employee's potential, we can avoid over-promoting him/her and we're all set!

Suppose for a moment, we magically know the absolutely accurate potential (RP, 'Real potential') for each and every employee that steps through the door, what should an organization do? Do the logical thing loh.

Assume that the employee will reach his/her potential just before his/her retirement and work a number of years. Since retirement age is currently 62, perhaps choose 55 (coincide with CPF! :-P) and assume that the fella gets to operate his/her maximum potential for 7 years. Alright, then how? Work backwards and interpolate between 55 and the entry point when the employee joins the organization, assuming the employee joins the organization on the first day.

With this curve, one can figure out how long the employee should stay at each grade before being promoted in order to smoothen out the path of advancement. What about mid-career people who join later? Er, dunno leh. Apparently there are some rules to "fit them" into this framework in some way, but the details are not completely clear. In any case, this article is a treatise on the big principles and not on the nitty gritty details.

Ranking

Basically after the above steps, one can derive some sort of a chart that will determine one's route of advancement, i.e. how many years before each promotion. However, there is one question unanswered: where do we find this oracle to tell us an officer's real potential? Well, as it turns out, such an oracle doesn't exist.

However, we don't have to give up because what we do know is the organizational structure of the organization, or in other words, we do know the number of jobs avialable at each level of the organizational pyramid (!). Given some assumptions on the flow through, i.e. resignation, retirement, etc. it is actually possible to come up with a quota of what is called CEPs (current estimated potentials).

For example, if there are 5 Directors, then maybe the system can allow for up to 15 people with the CEPs of Directors. What if the organization is full of lousy people and no one is really capable of doing the job? Well, too bad, somebody still has to do the job!

Therefore, the key insight is the following: we don't have to know the exact potentials of the people and we have to make do with who we have, so what we can do is to rank everyone in descending order according to their potential (assumption here is that while we cannot "measure" a person's potential directly, we can compare two people and decide who is "better") and divy out the CEPs accordingly.

What if an organization is full of people with high potential and there are not enough CEPs to go around? Well, tough luck. What that really means is that there aren't enough jobs to go around, so if we promote people, may not have jobs for them to do! :-) Is the private sector any different?

Ranking in Practice

The above theory is fair and good. How does it work? How it is possible to rank 70,000 people against each other? Well, it's impossible to say the least. The only practical thing to do is to split the Civil Service into Ministries to go about doing this. Even within one Mininistry, there can be a thousand people and it's still a lot.

To the best of the KTM's understanding, the only practical way to manage this process is to divide up people into small groups. Not sure exactly how it's done, but apparently each Director will hold his/her ranking session for the 50 to 100 people under his/her charge. After that, the rankings are floated up to another meeting with all the Directors and they figure out how to merge their individual lists, and this process can be repeated multiple times at multiple levels in order to generate a masterlist. This is simply a matter of "divide and conquer".

The ranking within each Department is relatively straightforward, since the Director is supposed to know his/her people and he/she also gets inputs from the Assistant and Dy Directors. The merging across lists is the contentious part -- but in general, the disagreements will not be over the officers with low CEP, but the ones with high CEPs -- and the argument is that these "outstanding" officers will be so outstanding that lots of people should "know" them.

What has been described thus far is ranking in potential (CEP). There is also this thing called ranking in performance. While ranking in potential is done for everyone, ranking in performance is done separately for officers of each substantive grade. So the idea here is to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges, because suppose you have two people with the same potential (CEP), but one is a new staff officer and the other is a Director (because he/she is older and has been around longer), how to compare their work performance?

So ranking in potential must be done between people who are doing jobs of approximately the same size, whatever that means. It turns out in practice that the rankings for CEP and performance will likely to be positively correlated because of the following simple logic: HOW do bosses conclude that an officer has high potential? Because at the very least the fella must be doing a very good job right (or if the boss likes you, the boss like you lah)? If you have a loser who performs very poorly, which idiot of a boss will go and rank him highly in potential??

Not withstanding the likely correlations between potential and performance, it is technically possible for an officer with low potential to have a high performance ranking, if he/she is somewhat of a Boxer (c.f. Animal Farm). While such an officer may not get promotions, he/she is technically supposed to get a bigger performance bonus at the end of the year.

The ranking process is conducted annually and is only applied to officers who have at least X months of service. The KTM is not sure exactly what X is, but it's something like 6, or perhaps 12 (not entirely sure of the exact number, but it's some number that's considered "reasonable"). People who join the Service at odd times of the year and don't clock up enough time are only ranked the year after. Claims that CEPs are assigned before or at the point when an officer joins the Service are absolutely false. Does it even appeal to common sense?

Kinks in the System

While the above principles are quite sound, there are a couple of kinks in the system. They are not real problems per se, but there are some issues that need to be handled.

Recognition for NS. The Government has to be seen to support National Service. This is not only in terms of letting the men go on reservists, but apparently the principle is that the men should not be disadvantages viz the females in terms of their career advancement in the Civil Service. What does this mean in real terms?

It means that if you have a guy and a girl of the same age with the same potential doing equally well, they should promote at the same time. This is notwithstanding the fact that the girl would have joined the Service 2 years ahead of the guy because she doesn't have to do NS. What this also means is that if the girl takes four years to get her first promotion according to time norms, the guy will take two. Structurally, what it also means is that girls can forget about getting promotions in less than three years 'cos the guys must have at least one year in Service before they can be promoted.

All in all, this attempt to take care of relativities and placate the guys so that they don't whine too much about begin disadvantaged because of NS creates somewhat of a mess for an otherwise simple system. :-)

Market Forces
. That's not all. Market forces also wreck havok on the system. For example, the Admin Service is supposedly competing with the investment banks and the Legal Service is supposedly competing with the big law firms for their new recuits. This applies a lot of pressure to promote, esp. the girls and it because another mess since the private sector doesn't care about NS. So if the Civil Service doesn't manage it properly, all the AOs and LSOs will be male. :-P

There are also complications arising from Honours Degrees and Pass Degrees. Should the Civil Service prefer Honours Degree holders over Pass Degree holders? Generally, since the Honours Degree holders are supposedly the better students and therefore likely to be more competent. Some will dispute this, but there seems to be a correlation. Also, the private sector does seem to pay more for Honours grads and so the Civil Service has little choice but to sort of match. Combine this issue with recognition for NS and the situation gets even more messy.

These are some of the kinks in the system (there may be others) that prevent the vanilla idea CEP system from being implemented as is, but these kinks as supposedly transient effects that should go away after the officers are in the Service for a few years.

Shortcomings in the Present CEP System

Given the impeccable logic, one would think that the CEP system is completely brilliant (or at least the KTM used to think when he first learnt about it), so why are there so many complaints? There are actually a large number of reasons.

Sufficiency of Information. The ranking process works under the assumption that it is possible to merge two ranked lists. This process is really not straightforward. To the best of the KTM's knowledge, it seems that the most common way to resolve this is to divy up the quotas so that every Departments each get a "fair share". Is it really "fair" if one Department has significantly more "high potential" individuals than another? Of course not, but how? There are pragmatic considerations.

Biases for Rank. It is easy to say that we take a whole list of people and rank them for potential. The problem is that some people go no opportunity to show their potential. Suppose you have a recruit who is the next Tommy Franks. How is he going to be able to demonstrate his potential as a recruit even if he has it?

Structurally, it's just easier for a fella higher up in the food chain to "demonstrate" higher potential, though some will say that if people wait long enough, they will get their turn. :-) And apparently, the system does allow for "catch up" promotions if someone's hidden potential does get "discovered" at some point.

Lousy Middle Management. At the end of the day, decisions are taken by the management. If the management is lousy and biased and cannot recognize potential, then the process will clearly throw up garbage. You can also have insecure bosses who are afraid of their subordinates promoting ahead of them and thumbing them down. Sounds nasty? But is the private sector any different? :-)

What's interesting about the Civil Service however is that it does have the Admin Service which has a completely separate ranking system (the details of which are not known to the KTM). The AOs however will participate in the ranking process and to some extent they provide a certain amount of objectivity, since they move around a lot and have no real incentive to favour anyone and/or have baggage (maybe). The general ranking process also doesn't affect their own prospects and so there's theoretically no incentive for them to "thumb people down". Some people will question the judgment and quality of the AOs, but that's not a structural issue.

Scholars vs Non-Scholars
. One major complaint is that scholars are automatically given higher CEPs. To be fair, it is probably true that as a group the scholars do get higher CEPs, but is that surprising? If the scholarship system churns up useless fellas that are no better than the average officer then we are WASTING our tax payers' monies. People will claim that it's a self-fulfilling prophesy.

The question is whether it is possible for a non-scholars to have a high CEP and conversely for a scholar to "fall from grace". Anecdotally, it is apparently possible, though uncommon. But then again, should it be common? Again, if on average we can easy find non-scholars who are better then the scholars, or if the scholars tend to mess up, then again, we not doing something right with the scholarship system. Note however, the fault may lie with the scholarship selection process and not necessarily with the appraisal process (which already has its own share of faults).

Assumptions. The current CEP system also has this underlying assumption that a person who has a Director's potential can do any Director's job. That's probably not entirely true since even at the Director level there are a whole bunch of different jobs. Just because one is good at Finance doesn't mean that one can do HR or policy.

Common Complaints. The lack of transparency is a common complaint, and the complaints are founded. The CEPs are not revealed to the individual officers. One possible reason may be because they learnt from Shell's experience. It's hard to keep people once you tell them that they are condemned to be janitors; and those told that they are going to be generals tend to be swell-headed and cause their own set of problems. :-P Personally, the KTM thinks it's the right policy to keep CEPs secret given the structural issues we know is possible on the ground.

The other major complaint is quotas. "Someone must have a D". :-P This complaint is especially resonant in the schools and the complaints are valid. But if we take a step back and think about our experiences in school, is it so hard to imagine that there is at least one lousy teacher in every school? Actually, it's not. Six-million dollar question is how to identify this fella and give him/her the D. :-P And the fact of the matter is: no matter who you give the D to, he/she is going to say it's unfair. Such is human nature.

There are also complaints that the process is harsh and unfair and may depend on one's relationship with the boss(es). An excellent write up on this situation can be found here. These are all very fair criticisms, but then, is it very different in the private sector? So people move up the career ladder by doing really good work and pissing off their bosses in the same breath? While many of the criticisms are thoroughly valid, how is it possible to address these issues when people are involved? Sensei Michael's suggestion for teachers to individually negotiate contracts will not help. Who is MOE going to turn to when trying to decide what new contract (a la promotion) to award? It will be the same biased fellas.

Sensei Michael has also highlighted that it helps to have a boss who is really good at "banging the table". So this means that one's CEP is dependent not only on one's performance/potential, but on the boss that one gets. Sounds unfair? Well, how is it different in the private sector? Does it help to have a wimp for a boss? The point that the KTM is trying to make here is that because of human failings, there will definitely be rough edges. The key is to ask ourselves whether it is a problem with the system or it's a structural problem arising from the fact that we're dealing with people. Some structural problems can be fixed. Some can't. A good rule of thumb is to compare with the private sector.

The Moral Hazard

At this point, it is also important to highlight a BIG moral hazard with the present appraisal promotion system (and perhaps any system that can possibly be designed). PSD apparently has these rules that determine whether officer can be promoted. One criteria for promotion is apparently a good performance grading in the latest year.

What is the moral hazard here? The problem is that on the ground, everybody wants to promote as many people as possible. After all, the extra money is going to come out of Ah Gong's pocket and not their own pocket. People get promoted, people are happy. People are not promoted, somebody must answer. Nobody wants to be the one answering (so usually tai chi to HR).

After a while, the people on the ground know the rules and they will play games in order to get people promoted. This is not exactly a bad thing, since to some extent they are "doing good", but it does occasionally lead to perversions in the rankings as people attempt to game the system. For example, when an officer is up for promotion, he/she might be given a good performance ranking just so that he/she "qualifies" for promotion. Officers recently promoted might get D's to soak up the D's for the benefit of the rest. Apparently weird things happen on the ground, but that's what you get when you have these rules.


What Next?

So the KTM has studied the Civil Service CEP system for some time and he has been thinking about whether it is possible to do better. The following is the KTM's current (incomplete) thinking.

The KTM must emphasize again that the ideas in the following sections are purely figments of the KTM's imagination and should should have no semblance to what's happening in the Civil Service today. Consider it a thought experiment.

Does the present CEP system fully address the problem of the Peter Principle?

The KTM believes that the present CEP system is not sufficient. Why? Because even though the CEP system has been in place for quite a while, we still have people being promoted to incompetence, or at least that what the KTM hears. But then again, it's not altogether surprising given the structural difficulties in the ranking system.

Furthermore, the KTM has intrinsic objections to a seniority-based system where people are paid for the number of white hairs on their heads. There's something to be said about the value of experience, but seriously, people should be paid for the work they do and not what they have in their heads (if they cannot use it in their work!).

The KTM believes that the Civil Service may wish to consider moving to a salary system that not only takes seniority into account, it pays by the job. The basis for this system is the following observation: Unless we are doing charity, the fair and sustainable wage to pay someone is the value of the work that he does.

Job-Based Salary System

Under this proposed system, there are two major wage components -- a seniority component and job component. The seniority component is equivalant to the current substantive grade for the Civil Service. What is the correct ratio between the seniority component versus the job component? The KTM doesn't really know the right answer, but he would venture to guess 30/70, in favour of the job.

The idea is very simple, we continue to have the current CEP system, but we reduce the current seniority-based pay by 70%. As an officer is promoted in grade, he/she will get a pay increase but at 30% of the current rate. In addition, we put a value on every job equivalent to 70% of the pay for the person currently holding the job. Of course bigger job means more money lah!

The point is when the system switches over to the new system. Nothing happens. Everyone is paid exactly the same. Things will start to change once people people retire or quit. What happens then is that job openings will open up and people can be "promoted" to fill those openings.

What is the beauty of this system? The fellas who take on the new (bigger) jobs, immediately(!) get the job-based pay associated with that job. Why not? If someone does a bigger job, shouldn't he/she be paid more? Why must wait for promotion? The work to be done got wait for promotion or not? :-)

Of course, a young punk doing the job may not do quite as well as a seasoned old hand. To differentiate between the two, we will adjust the quantum of the performance bonus, which is again pegged not to the person, but to the job done by the person.

While this may sound good, there is no free lunch hor. It also means if someone is "promoted" to a higher job and found to be ill-equipped, that person can be moved to a "lower" job and he/she will thereby immediately get a lower pay. What this does is to provide the Civil Service to effectively "demote" people that it "promoted" wrongly. Currently, if someone is wrongly promoted, the mistake cannot be undone!

Benefits of Job-Based Salary System

In addition to begin able to address the problem arising from the Peter Principle, this new system has other benefits. First, it allows the Civil Service to be more responsive. You have a fella who is good and can do a big job, give him the job and pay him lah. Wait for what? This also brings the Civil Service more in line with the private sector.
Even the private sector may not necessarily be able to match. :-P

This system is also more transparent. Maybe? :-) This may also result in less incentives to "game" the system since promotions in grade are less important compared to getting bigger (and better-paying) appointments. It is unlikely that this new system will necessarily make everyone happier. Some people will still be bypassed for "promotions" in favour of others. One way to" ameliorate" this problem is to allow any officer within the Ministry to vie for job openings instead of promoting from within the same Department.

Finally, as a tax payer, the KTM likes it because it puts a cap on the manpower expenditure of a Ministry. If the Ministry has x jobs, then we pretty much know exactly how much it's going to cost.

Pitfalls of Job-Based Salary System

The KTM hasn't exactly been able to consider all the problems of this new proposed system in detail. This article is somewhat of a rush job due to circumstances. :-) What's clear is that it makes the existing already complicated appraisal system EVEN MORE complicated.

This system also requires a lot of responsibility to be delegated to the middle management and may be subject to abuse. Given a vacancy, who and how to decide whether the job should be filled from within or if it should be filled by hiring from outside? This new scheme may result in undue pressure to fill from within since it is as good as immediate pay increases! Who decides is a big problem. If it's too low in the food chain, abuses are more likely. If the authority is too high in the chain of command, there is a likelihood of bureaucratic paralysis.

There are probably other pitfalls. Readers are welcome to poke holes. :-) Nevertheless, the KTM hopes that he has demonstrated that the design of a promotion, appraisal and remuneration system for 70,000 Civil Servant is quite an intriguing problem. :-P

Conclusion

The KTM's main take away from his research and thoughts on this issue is simply that no appraisal system is perfect as long as it depends on people to make the decisions. People have biases, they have baggage. Lots of problems. Question is how to run a system that mostly works and that's reasonable sane and manageable. Also, no matter what system is devised, people on the ground will try to game the system. :-P

The problem in the Civil Service is compounded by scale. 70,000 people is a lot of bodies. From the KTM's perspective, the Civil Service has done quite well despite the kinks in the system, though improvements are still possible (as always).

In any and every system, there will be "winners" and there will be "losers" (and this is not meant in a derogatory way). As they say, more often than not, winner takes all. It also turns out that people dun like to be the losers and some 90% of the people think that they are "above average". Guys typically have an extra issues of ego to grapple with. :-) Complaints of unfairness are inevitable no matter how "fair" the system really is.

The KTM has been thinking about a system that can completely replace the CEP system for a few years now, but has not been able to come up with anything. If someone has some bright ideas, the KTM would be keen to hear them.

Addendum: The KTM just received a note from a reader to say that his proposal for a job-based salary system is far from original. Apparently the DXOs (formerly NUSAF) in Mindef already have some sort of a scheme like that in place. Cool. This is the nice thing about the blogosphere. You learn new things everyday. :-)

[Disclaimer: The KTM makes no claims that the described system is exactly the one currently implemented in the Civil Service today, though he has done his due diligence in establishing the truths of the statements made. PSD is welcome to post corrections and/or clarifications.]

Comments (36)

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Familyman:

Thanks Mr KTM. Enjoy your post. It is insightful. Again it does grate on my nerves that you are still calling another person a blatant liar. If you can be unsure of certain facts in your own essay, do give other people the same benefit of a doubt. Why the name calling? That I cannot understand, and may God bless you.

Familyman,

Thanks for your comments.

Clarification: for the statements that the KTM has highlighted are lies, the KTM is EXTREMELY sure he got his facts right. It is without a doubt that new officers don't have a CEP until AFTER they get ranked.

Not sure why you say the KTM is name calling. Untrue statements are lies what. Untrue statements that defy common sense and logic are blatant lies in the KTM's definition.

Anyway, cannot anyhow play play leh. If the KTM calls someone a liar, it will be defamatory if the KTM is wrong. It's not like the KTM has not been threatened with a defamation suit before. :-)

lance:

Hi KTM,
Appreciated your article. Very insightful and informative. Clears up a lot of doubts, as much as that is possible.
Wish to ask you about a personal situation of mine. Do you mind giving me your e-mail address? ;)

lance,

Thanks for your comments. You are welcome to drop me a note at kwayteowman@gmail.com. :-)

Actually, read your comment on Mr Wang's blog earlier. If you concern is whether it was wrong to take up a teaching contract with MOE, the question is whether you really want to be a teacher and whether you want to help your country's children get smarter. If that's your calling in life, then it's a no-brainer.

Your experience when you join MOE is likely to depend to a large extent on your Principal, HOD and colleagues -- like all jobs in life. How do you know whether a job is any good before you take it? Try first and see how loh.

familyman:

You are very right and very logical, of course This is the very same reason why our local politics will take forever to move beyond the PAP style and become truly bi-partisan. It is too M&M for my liking, although I really like Chocolates. (recall Gomez) My question is - are you really like that in person, or is it a bad day and I am really picking up all the bad vibes in blogosphere today.

Familyman,

You are very right and very logical, of course. This is the very same reason why our local politics will take forever to move beyond the PAP style and become truly bi-partisan. It is too M&M for my liking, although I really like Chocolates. (recall Gomez)

Thanks for your kind words. Your drawing of the analogy with Gomez is interesting. But as it turns out, the KTM is not a politician, so it's hard to see the significance of the analogy to Singaporean politics.

My question is - are you really like that in person, or is it a bad day and I am really picking up all the bad vibes in blogosphere today.

As for this current minor brouhaha at Mr Wang's blog, it's a combination of two factors: (i) bad hair day; and (ii) having read this most ridiculous thing that even without knowing the facts, one can probably conclude that it cannot be true from common sense. It's quite disagreeable to the KTM for the fella to attempt to give advice and yet misrepresent information to his readers. Strangely enough, it seems like some people actually like to believe in falsehood, and it goes beyond logic. :-)

You can also think of it as an experiment that the KTM is conducting to understand the state of the blogosphere and how people think. Like in all experiments, you gotta poke the system a bit and see how it reacts. :-P

Perhaps the KTM can now do the George Yeo thing and suggest that we move on? Mr Wang has said his piece and the KTM has spouted his own brand of nonsense and people can choose what they want to believe. :-)

Rob:

KTM,

There are actually quite a few readers who disagreed with Mr Wang and posted their reasons civilly to participate in the discussion, not by charging in with their torches blazing. I don't think it's a good idea to start implying that his readers are irrational (including me, and no, a smiley does not remove it's negativity :-) ). Anyway, I think this is a well thought out and informative article, even though I doubt the motivation.

lance:

Well yes, whether or not to join MOE was part of my concern. After all, with all this recent talk on the CEP on both yours and Mr. Wang's blogs, I've become sort of aware of actually what's going on behind the scenes with the performance and potential ranking, CEP thingy etc. I must admit that I've lost faith in the Singapore Civil Service because of this, to put it bluntly, discrimination against non-scholars in the teaching profession. Because it really is discrimination as you are already divided into different tiers on entering the service and a scholar starts on a higher level than you, never mind if actually you are better than him. After all, if scholars are automatically awarded higher CEP upon entering the service and they get opportunity to shine more often, then it's pretty dicouraging for those of us with degrees but are non-scholars through no fault of our own.

Your talk about idealism is fine but I must diasgree with you there. I DO wish to do the best for my students but poeple must be paid commensurate to their ability and offered a level playing field right?:)

h2:

This is my first time reading your articles and contributions, KTM, but I must commend that I thoroughly enjoyed your article, long as it is.

Kudos to your objectivity and research work, look forward to reading more of your contributions if you could provide me a link to where you always place them!

Rob,

I don't think it's a good idea to start implying that his readers are irrational (including me).

Well said. The KTM was sloppy. It was not the KTM's intention to imply that all Mr Wang's readers are irrational. If so, there would have been no point in posting a comment there at all. If you were offended, please accept the KTM's sincere apologies. It was not the KTM's intention to insult you in any way.

lance,

I must admit that I've lost faith in the Singapore Civil Service because of this, to put it bluntly, discrimination against non-scholars in the teaching profession.

Your reaction is exactly why the KTM reacted to Mr Wang's posting. While this fella claims to be giving advice, he is spreading misinformation and thereby causing confusion for people such as you. It does a real disservice to the young and to those who are genuinely seeking the information they need to make informed decisions about their future and their careers.

Honestly, it doesn't really matter to the KTM whether you choose to join the teaching profession. What he hopes you will do is to decide for yourself after getting a true and unbiased picture what's really going on.

So here are the facts which the KTM believes will be helpful for you in making your decision:

1. It is TRUE that scholars tend to do better and have higher CEPs that non-scholars in the Civil Serivice on average. There is no denying this fact.

2. It is FALSE that scholars are AUTOMATICALLY assigned higher CEPs than non-scholars, but in general, scholars tend to be more articulate and write better and as a consequence they do better on the average. And even when the scholars get higher CEPs, they get the CEP WHEN they undergo ranking, NOT when they first step into the Service. This is subtle but important in the KTM's opinion.

There are people who disagree and say that scholars only know how to study and are not better than non-scholars. Okay, let's think about this logically. Is this statement reasonable? As the KTM mentioned above, if scholars are not better than the norm, why should the Government continue to give out scholarships? While it's quite true that scholars are a dime a dozen nowadays, they still represent the top 500 or so within their cohort (or top 1%). While it is true that the 'A' Levels are pretty easy nowadays, these fellas getting all A's cannot be idiots lah. This is all common sense isn't it?

3. It is FALSE that you will NECESSARILY do worse than the scholars. It all depends on where you stand relative to the general population. If you are just an average joe, then you will likely do worse than the scholars. If you are actually within the 1% of people (or around there) who could have gotten a scholarship but didn't because of circumstances, then you will have a fighting chance.

Will the scholars have a slight advantage over the non-scholars? Let the KTM ask you another question: do you think it makes a difference whether you come from a branded secondary school or a neighbourhood school when you go interview for a job? Realistically, branding and pedigree helps. That's the way it is in life and it has nothing to do with the Civil Service. Question is: does it guarantee success? :-)

Do note that only a fraction of the 28,000 teachers out there are scholars (exactly what proportion, sorry KTM doesn't have the data) and there are principals who were not scholars, so it's not all gloom and doom for the non-scholars in the Teaching Service.

4. At the end of the day, how well you do in ANY job depends on MANY, MANY, MANY more factors than whether you are a scholar or not. Question: are you likeable and will your boss like you? If you read what Sensei Michael has to say, fat lot of good it will do if you are a scholar but your boss hates your guts and will not speak up for you during the ranking sessions.

5. It is TRUE that there are condemned scholars who actually end up doing worse than the average joes, but those kinds are hard to spot 'cos most will not remain in the Service too long.

6. It is TRUE that there is a pecking order among the various scholars, but that's only at the point of offer. There are MANY AOs who were not SAFOS/OMS scholars when they started (though the majority are probably nevertheless scholars). Also, the majority of SAFOS scholars don't actually make it to the Admin Service. [This is not quite relevant to you, but of general interest thinks the KTM.]

Why should you believe the KTM? No real reason. That's a choice you'd have to make. As in all things in life, you may be presented with competing and contradicting views and you just have to decide which ones are worth believing. This career thing is a very serious decision. Better take your time and think carefully. Good luck. :-)

h2,

Thanks for your kind words. The KTM used to have a KT stall at http://kwayteowman.blogspot.com, but truthfully it hasn't been updated for a long time 'cos the KTM's Blogger account is broken. :-( So the KTM now has no choice but to post at SA.

teacher:

Hi Lance,

I was at the bank for 3 years, and have been teaching for more than 10 years. I still enjoy the interaction with the teenagers and that kind of sum up the joy in my life, the job satisfaction cannot be received anywhere else. What I hear is that males probably have a better fast track in the MOE, and if you are passionate about moulding young minds, I think you will enjoy the job, no matter what those assholes / scholars at the top do. (I think :) ) I guess if you think that something else is probably better paid, better whatever, you are probably right. But the 'politics' and favouritism probably exists in every job. Good luck.

lance:

Hi teacher,

Thanks for the comments. You brought up a another question which has been at the back of my mind. All things considered, why would mid-career applicants join teaching? I'm talking about those who already command a high salary in the private sector. Joining MOE would entail taking a pay cut. Mind sharing why u decided to quit the private sector for teaching?

On a personal note, I was about to send an e-mail to KMT about another thing which bugs me but perhaps I'll just post it here so others can contribute their opinions as well.

I just graduated from Beijing Language and Culture University in Beijing in January, came back to Singapore and applied to MOE to become a teacher. I got the job.
I have two (rather big) beefs with MOE though.
The first is that I was put only put on the pass degree salary scale, as opposed to the honours one as I graduated only with a pass degree.

However I wish to emphasise that this is no fault of mine as China doesn't have an honours system.

I did a placement test upon entrance to my faculty and as I did pretty well was allowed to commence studies from the second year second semester and graduated in January this year in the top 10 of my faculty. I also got an A in the official test of Chinese language in China and I was the top student in year 4 of my faculty as well.

USA doesn't have an honours system as well but uses the laude system where top 5% is summa cum laude which is equivalent to first class honours in Commonwealth countries. Thus since I was in the top 10 I think I should be put on the honours scale. My friend graduated summa cum laude from Dartmouth and he got into the honours salary scale for teaching. Also other scholars on MOE scholarship from Beijing University got into the honours scale despite the fact that they also didn't grad with honours but got good grades like me.

So what irks me is
1) the fact that the civil service/MOE is too rigid in that they primarily give recognition only to those brand name universities like (in China's case) Beijing U, Fudan U etc and do not recognise the fact that if u graduate from China your Chinese is already very good, Ivy League or non-Ivy League.

2) scholars get put on the honours salary scale even if they graduate without honours(like the example of my friends above). The same cannot be said of non-scholars.

I feel that the above two reasons are why I was put on the pass degree salary scale as opposed to the honours one.

Anyone care to contribute his opinions?;)

Piper:

lance:

MOE can be quite rigid about all this. At least your degree is recognised. I know teachers, who despite having a degree (one from Murdoch Uni), who are put on the non-graduate pay scale. I guess a degree from Murdoch Uni is not good enough in their eyes. So the teacher will have to do another degree from an approved university (most likely NIE) to move up to the graduate pay scale.

So, you can bring your case to HR or join the Teacher's Union and see if they can help you.

Lance,

It's probably a much better idea for you to post your questions here instead of emailing the KTM. The KTM believes that he's already reached the limits of what he can possibly tell you. The *REAL* teachers probably have much more relevant and up-to-date experience to share.

It seems to the KTM however that what you are highlighting (school recognition problem) is likely to be quite an uphill battle. As the KTM had highlighted in the article above, this class of honours, school recognition problem is somewhat messed up and difficult to get right. It's almost impossible to come to any consensus that will please everyone and yet maintain relativities.

Your theory that your friends get put on the Honours payscale by virtue of being scholars is likely to be false. What is probably more likely to be the case is that all the schools that scholars are sent to are "automatically recognized" (which is only logical since it makes no sense for MOE to send a scholars to a non-recognized school) and there's some internal guideline as to what is considered Honours for those schools. Schools not on the current list how? Er, very likely there is a some procedure for deciding and very likely the procedure is long and cumbersome and very likely nobody is too keen or in a big hurry to go deal with it. Okay, so the Civil Service has some structural inefficiencies as well....

The only consolation (also mentioned above) is that this mess is hopefully only temporary and no matter where you start off, you will eventually end up where you're supposed to get to (according to your ranked CEP yada yada).

Personally, the KTM doesn't think that you should worry unduly about the "fairness" of the appraisal system. It's not perfect but it limps along and sort of works. It's unlikely that the appraisal process in the private sector is significantly "fairer", unless perhaps you are in banking or sales where performance can be directly measured in terms of dollars and cents.

The KTM has this theory that people can be divided into two types: the public service people and the private sector people. If you are the former, you will be happier in the Civil Service. If you are the latter, you will be quite miserable. Just gotta figure out where you fit.

What I think you may wish to find out more and worry about are the so called nasties associated with teaching. I was going to refer you to this post by Trisha entitled "Why I hate teaching" but I can't find it any more. :-( Perhaps check out Piper's post (Piper, dun mind hor).

You can also find a list of blogs by teachers here. You can probably gain more insights into what teaching entails by checking out these blogs as well. Good luck.

teacher & Piper,

Thanks for chipping in and sharing your views. :-)

teacher:

ok - I was doing some part time teaching in a Sec school while waiting for NS. Enjoyed it. Then went to Bus Ad in NUS and followed the herd instinct and joined a bank for 3 years. Hated writing credit proposals, meeting clients and general politiking in a bank. A new educational institution was set up, had openings and the rest is history for me. I guess if I did not do the part time thingy before NS, I would have missed this career path. As with any other organisations, we have a rigid salary structure, staff hits salary ceilings, there are politics and the usual frustrations etc. But on balance, I enjoy interacting with the students and I have no regrets taking this path. If you are going to be hang up about the pay thing (honrs / non honors) - you will always have this hang up - even if you are a $1.2 mil minister - so get over it and enjoy life :)

Piper:

If you are going to be hang up about the pay thing (honrs / non honors) - you will always have this hang up - even if you are a $1.2 mil minister - so get over it and enjoy life :)

I agree actually. If you followed KTM's link to my rant against the teaching profession, do note that DESPITE all that nonsense, I still enjoy teaching. I think as a teacher, you need to separate yourself from the crap that goes around in schools and the staff room, be less bothered about the fairness of the system and just enjoy being able to contribute to a person's education and life.

Of course this is easier said then done. :D

lance:

Well its good to see that there are some positive comments about teaching:) The people I've spoken too, current and ex-teachers etc, had mostly negative comments.

Teacher, when u said part-time teaching, are u talking about relief or what? I applied for relief teaching(just) but it all seems rather intermittent and arbitrary when they call you.

teacher:

Yep - relief teaching at a sec school - taught N level - sec 2 maths - had a lot of fun :) It is good to remember this - stay away from the really negative chaps. They will make you more jaded :0( And these are the ones that will nag nag nag - and 20 years later - they are still there lol...

lance:

Do Chinese teachers get more "saikang"/discriminated against in schools? Because I've heard something like that...

Mr Wang Fan Club:

Kway Teow Man,

We attached Mr Wang's rebuttals here since you have disappeared a few days:

Mr Wang:

LOL. I took a quick look at KTM's article. There's hardly anything that he really disagrees with me, maybe a few minor points.

Problem with KTM is that he tends to miss the trees for the wood. Looking at the big picture, my basic message is this:

(a) Non-scholars are placed at a clear & automatic disadvantage when they join.

(b) Even if non-scholars perform very well, outstanding performance translates directly into annual bonuses. Not promotions.

KTM has some minor quibble about when exactly a CEP score is assigned. I say that the initial CEP score is practically pre-determined, according to a pre-existing formula. KTM disagrees. Well, look at the comment left by a scholar at April 17, 2007 8:38 PM:

Hi I'm a psc overseas scholar (open). Here is the pecking order for sholars

1. Prez Scholars (usualy SAFOS)
2. SAFOS / and below them SPF
3. OMS
4. Ministry specific tied scholarships eg MFA
5. Kucing Kurap LOMS
6. Teaching (LOL)

LOL. There's your pre-existing formula (part of it, anyway). If you still don't get it, suppose a President's Scholar and a Kucing Kurap LOMS start work on the same day , 2nd January 2007, at the same ministry.

The President's Scholar already has a higher CEP score. This is what that commenter is trying to tell you. The system doesn't say - "Oh, let's assess these two employees, give them some projects, review their performance on 30 June 2007, or 31 December 2007." NO! The President's Scholar, by virtue of being a President's Scholar, already has a higher CEP score than the Kucing Kurap LOMS ... This is automatic from Day One. Sorry, before Day One.

Which is why the commenter can say what he says. He is telling you - "if you get X type of scholarship, you will get X type of CEP score". Even before you have actually started work, the commenter can already tell that. So OF COURSE your CEP score is pre-determined.

Mr Wang Fan Club,

Thanks for citing Mr Wang's remarks. Trying to stir up trouble between KTM and Mr Wang eh? :-)

The KTM has already said what he needs to say. There is sufficient information around for people to go and make up their own minds as to what to believe.

While you are here, perhaps the KTM can tell you a story. A long time ago, there was this race that was held in a land far far away. Some animals came and participated in the race, while other animals watched. Every one started at the same point, but in the end, the hare won and the tortoise lost. The tortoise's supporters then started to accuse the organizers of the race that it was unfair. What could the organizers do? It turned out that once in a blue moon, the tortoise does win --- but the allegations of unfairness never went away. :-P

Read this article more carefully lah. It's long, but that's because it tries to cover all the ground -- fairly and objectively. :-)

Kay Poh:

A long time ago, there was this race that was held in a land far far away. Some animals came and participated in the race, while other animals watched. Every one started at the same point, but in the end, the hare won and the tortoise lost. The tortoise's supporters then started to accuse the organizers of the race that it was unfair. What could the organizers do? It turned out that once in a blue moon, the tortoise does win --- but the allegations of unfairness never went away.

It's obviously unfair! The hare, by virtue of being a hare, already has an advantage and this is is automatic from the start line. Sorry, before the start line.

Kay Poh,

It's obviously unfair! The hare, by virtue of being a hare, already has an advantage and this is is automatic from the start line. Sorry, before the start line.

As it turns out, life IS UNFAIR. The question is whether the organizers needed to rig the race for the hare to win, and whether or not ONLY the hares can win. Suppose a hunting hound came and joined the race, is it possible for the hound to win? :-)

Kay Poh:

Ai yah, KTM fails to see the irony of my comment. What I said was given a very deliberate formulation... :p

Kay Poh,

The irony of your comment is not easy to see. Perhaps the KTM was also deliberate in not seeing it so that he can clarify his position? :-)

yizheng:

Haha.. the irony is indeed unclear. Only when Kay Poh says so, then I realise..

I guess the KTM needs some pokes to clarify himself :-)

Now that u've clarified, perhaps it's better that u include the clarification part into the end of the story. It helps make clear your points too on the first read, don need to read Kay Poh's irony, then read your deliberate ignorance to see it :-)

Yizheng,

The KTM is not exactly a fan of spoon feeding, so some things need not be spelt out too explicitly. Hehe. :-P

We can leave things as is and leave people to go and figure out what they want to believe. :-)

The Hare:

The story that KTM related may not tell the whole story. In Civil service, some hares are mistaken to be tortoises ....and they remain "branded" as tortoises for life! They are not allowed to run as fast as a hare and are forced to run like a tortoise. This becomes frustrating for these unrecognized hares and hence they take their race somewhere else to where they can run like a true hare. So, KTM is right to say that life is not fair.....the "gods" decide to call you what they want to call you, a hare or a tortoise; rather than recognize the true type of animal that you are.


I wonder if Kay Poh and KTM are one and the same? Even the identity of Yizheng is questionable... Seems as though it was a clever use of 'split personalities' to communicate a certain discourse.


Nevertheless, it was a good discussion and is indeed a worthy read - including the majority of comments. It is heartening to see so many independent minds together, keep it up.


Hmmm, I take back my observations on Yizheng - did not realise it was made a day later after the preceding post...

The Hare,

The KTM agrees with you, but your story is not yet complete.

There are also tortoises who think themselves of themselves as hares and even though they are rightly judged to be tortoises, they refuse to accept it. Some stay on and continue to bitch about it; others leave. With 70,000 Civil Servants, you have a whole zoo out there and it takes all sorts. :-)

I noticed the link to my blog from my Dashboard. Thank you for linking to me. I actually have another post http://www.senseimichael.com/2007/04/15/ranking-of-staff-in-management/ where I collected a series of thoughts on the ranking system as it stands.

And yes (unfortunately) it really doesn't help to get a wimp for a boss. I see it all the time within the ranking panel. I'm currently in a private school overseas, but I still see the same thing happening. You are right, it's no different from what the private sector is doing too!

Bureaucracy has become Bureaucrazy around here.

samji:

how would you assess someone who is condemned against career towards teaching

samji:

how would you assess someone who is condemned against career in the civil service and ministries?

Audience:

Quote Kway Teow Man "There are also tortoises who think themselves of themselves as hares and even though they are rightly judged to be tortoises, they refuse to accept it. Some stay on and continue to bitch about it; others leave. With 70,000 Civil Servants, you have a whole zoo out there and it takes all sorts. :-)"

Wow this is a fabulous perspective and so so true. How many of these sore bitter losers have i met so far, who spend all their time whining and whinging non stop? They think they are good enough and when they see scholars promoted, they KBKB.

There was this RJC guy I know who was rejected for the OMS scholarship. It was his dream to get it and he was rejected without an interview. Thereafter he spent some time on the net in various forums writing about his "predicament" saying that he has a genuine passion for the civil service and aspires to serve the country and was rejected for the prestigious OMS while he claims that his RJC friends who were offered the scholarship do not have the same passion for civil service and even goes as far as to claim that they only applied for it because of the prestige. He continued ranting saying that people like him who genuinely hope to be in the civil service and have real passion were rejected because people who were only after the prestige of a PSC scholarship fared better than him.

He never once stopped to think that there's a very high and real chance that he was not considered because he does not have the goods.

Desire and ability are two different thing. I could really love to draw and it is my passion and I have nursed the ambition to the next Vincent Van Gogh forever but I simply cannot draw. Everything I draw looks bad!

A lot of people confuse their lack of ability with the system oppressing them. Once they have been rejected for something they badly desire, they immediately assume they were unjustly sidelined. It never occurred to them ever to question the very real possibility that they do not have what it takes.

Why? Cos that's the easy way out. And the easy way to look when you are in that position. It's the human instinctive reaction to look everywhere but at your own inadequacy.

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